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KentonBrown60629
09-22-2007, 08:26 AM
I upgraded to the ptvnet and instantcake at the same time. I first booted from the ptvnet cd and followed the instructions. I tried it once with the usb 2.0 drivers and once without. I do not have any lights on my usb adapters which indicates that they are not working. I have two adapters and have tried them both in both of the usb ports with the same results. I have powered off/on after each change.
According to the forums both adapters should be supported.
My adpaters are Linksys usb 100tx and Belkin F5050
Both adapters work from my xp machine.
How do I get the Linksys usb 100tx to work?
Lou Jacob
09-22-2007, 09:04 AM
I upgraded to the ptvnet and instantcake at the same time. I first booted from the ptvnet cd and followed the instructions. I tried it once with the usb 2.0 drivers and once without. I do not have any lights on my usb adapters which indicates that they are not working. I have two adapters and have tried them both in both of the usb ports with the same results. I have powered off/on after each change.
According to the forums both adapters should be supported.
My adpaters are Linksys usb 100tx and Belkin F5050
Both adapters work from my xp machine.
How do I get the Linksys usb 100tx to work?
Actually, none of the adapters you've listed are one's that we've tested or recommended. In theory, the Linksys USB 100 should work (if you do not configure the USB 2.0 drivers), however the ones we recommend (and have tested) are all USB 2.0 and are listed in this post (http://www.dvrupgrade.com/forums/showpost.php?p=187&postcount=2).
KentonBrown60629
09-22-2007, 09:59 AM
I am sorry if I caused confusion about the Belkin F5050 and linksys 100tx being compatible. I was basing that on this post:
http://www.dvrplayground.com/forum/thread/12578/Compatible-USB-Ethernet-Adapters-for-Series-2-DirecTiVos/
Is this post outdated?
Lou Jacob
09-22-2007, 10:14 AM
I am sorry if I caused confusion about the Belkin F5050 and linksys 100tx being compatible. I was basing that on this post:
http://www.dvrplayground.com/forum/thread/12578/Compatible-USB-Ethernet-Adapters-for-Series-2-DirecTiVos/
Is this post outdated?
In some ways, yes. But keep this in mind:
1) I did not write that post
2) the only tested adapter listed there is the Linksys; the information I referred you to (which I did write) has a more complete listing.
MartyEsthay60876
09-28-2007, 03:50 PM
have you figured this out yet? It doesnt look like this forum has enough history for solid answers. I used ptvnet to enable my usb on my philips DSR704 and everything appeared to go well with the update. But my usb100tx is not working, no lights... It works fine on my other box. If the logo of dvrupgrade wouldnt be on the main splash screen I wouldnt even think anything was done to my box. Let me know if you have anymore info and I will also share what I find.
Lou Jacob
09-28-2007, 04:30 PM
... I highly recommend you consider using one of the adapters we (DVRupgrade) recommends and that I have personally tested with PTVnet.
This forum is new, but the guy who is responded to 99% of the posts here (me) does give you solid answers -- PTVnet has been around for a couple of years now, so please trust me on this... :-)
MartyEsthay60876
09-28-2007, 04:34 PM
Lou, I am about to run out to Circuit City and pick up the USB200M. Hopefully that does the trick. I had my first DTV Tivo hacked before I got so I am still learning this stuff. I will post my results in about an hour. Thanks.
MartyEsthay60876
09-28-2007, 05:54 PM
The new NIC does work. However I have a questions on the IP address. Does it get a default IP or does it need to pull a DHCP address? How do I change it? Thanks for your help Lou.
KentonBrown60629
09-28-2007, 06:28 PM
I never could get the 100tx to work. Pretty sad as I thought it was supported by all Tivo distributions. I ended up going to a different 6.2 upgrade provider that does support 100tx although it cost me $55.00 dollars more. I figured by the time I ordered another one it only costs me a few dollars more and this distribution has some extra HMO features. I will not mention which one as that would be rude to DVRupgrade.
Lou Jacob
09-28-2007, 06:50 PM
I never could get the 100tx to work. Pretty sad as I thought it was supported by all Tivo distributions. I ended up going to a different 6.2 upgrade provider that does support 100tx although it cost me $55.00 dollars more. I figured by the time I ordered another one it only costs me a few dollars more and this distribution has some extra HMO features. I will not mention which one as that would be rude to DVRupgrade.
Couple of things to point out here...
On the point of the 100tx, DirecTiVo boxes like yours were never meant to support any USB adapters; that is the point of PTVnet, to enable the USB ports; so not sure where you got the idea that all would be supported... sorry about that, but we do try to be clear on what adapters are supported by PTVnet.
As for your second point, you've definitely pushed a button:
The folks you bought that drive from (we know who they are) are violating rights which DVRupgrade paid for, as well as the rights of many other developers. Its all documented here (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36692).
Just know that they have been openly lying about what they have been doing for some time, and your dollars went to supporting that. Please don't take it personally - I'm not judging you, nor am I upset with you - its them I have an issue with (if you were me, and you spent the money I did, only to watch a competitor do what he is doing, you wouldn't like it either).
I've been aware of these guys for many years (when I first started the business over seven years ago, they were copying our content and embedding it in their Ebay auctions, and really confusing folks. There is no end to the lying that has come out of Todd's mouth or Nick's or whomever you dealt with there.
So, with that said, there will be no further discussion of them or their existence in my little corner of the world. They don't deserve the attention. I hope you understand.
[edit:] Here is a link to another article with the legal and free way to enable HMO and MRV on a PTVnet kit (http://www.dvrupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9) (or drive modified with the PTVnet DIY software.
Lou Jacob
09-28-2007, 06:55 PM
The new NIC does work. However I have a questions on the IP address. Does it get a default IP or does it need to pull a DHCP address? How do I change it? Thanks for your help Lou.
Start with the PTVnet General Usage and Support Information (http://www.dvrupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20) from the articles area of the forum.
Then check out the thread entitled: PTVnet: Setting a Static IP Address (two methods) (http://www.dvrupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45&highlight=static)
In the future, if you can address your questions not just to me, it might encourage other members of the community to step forward and answer as well!
Thx
KentonBrown60629
09-28-2007, 08:08 PM
Thank you for the reply. I had no idea at all that they were stealing from you. I am a missionary IT manager of a remote mission hospital here in Honduras. Directv is pretty much our only form on entertainment out here. I was not able to run out and purchase a NIC as the nearest Best Buy is about 2000 miles away. I was not able to order it soon enough for a construction team coming here.
Also their were other hacks before you put together an ISO to download. These hacks included support for the 100tx and is in fact why I ordered it a couple of years ago.
When I finally do get a supported NIC then I can go back to your system distribution.
Linux, as everyone knows, is open-source. It seems that you are saying that if you modify the Linux Kernel that makes your Linux commercial. I must be reading your information wrong because it actually makes your Kernel code open-source. Also if someone gives you exclusive writes to distribute their open-source that does not make that open-source commercial. Is a donation a donation if it is suggested? Legally it is but it still seems to be an arm twister.
Now you certainly have a right to charge for support you also have the right to let everyone know that you are the only one that has the connections required to properly support the product. It would seem that in the open-source Linux community the word "stealing" is not valid. I must agree that the other people should give you credit for your work. This is also required in the open-source community. They are wrong not to do so. Those that purchased elsewhere should not expect any help from this forum. With open-source just about the only thing illegal you can do is to charge for the open-source modified or not. Now if you have created a program that uses no open-source but only runs on it then you could charge for your commercial program. As a commercial software developer I can not use ANY open source in my programs unless I purchase a license for the code. If i do then my software must be open source also.
People often take open-source and add features like expanded USB adapter support. How many Linux distributions out there are from other distributions that have features added, packaged, given away with the ability to purchase support? Ununtu from Debian, CentOS (among many others) from RedHat to name a couple. As you know, just because this computer is called TIVO does not make the Linux installed commercial. Why not support the TIVO nics? My guess is that to prevent your program from being open-source you have written or purchased libraries for the drivers.
Your distribution did allow me to choose where the hard drive was installed and the CDROM. That was much better than the other guy. The other guy has old software that does not support Vista. I'm putting up a Linux VM just to run the tivo HMO software. Yes, if it was not for the 100tx, I would have wasted my money as your system is much cleaner and I had already purchased it. Well actually if it wasn't for the 100tx not being supported I would never had searched for another solution. I found the ebay guy by searching for Tivo 6.2 100tx
Having said all of that I want to say that you have done a great job. I would highly recommend your system to every DTivo Series II owner. It sounds like the ebay guy has violated open-source requirements and is taking advantage of your hard work. I am sure he has a different take on it.
Rick Travis
09-28-2007, 08:34 PM
The new NIC does work. However I have a questions on the IP address. Does it get a default IP or does it need to pull a DHCP address? How do I change it? Thanks for your help Lou.
Do you have a router? Does your router accept MAC addresses? If so enter the MAC address of your USB Ethernet adapter into your router and assign IP address within your routers address space. Your routers manual should tell how to do this.
Lou Jacob
09-28-2007, 11:33 PM
It seems that you are saying that if you modify the Linux Kernel that makes your Linux commercial.
No, its not that at all. We licensed the use of a tool (killhdinitrd) that makes a modification to the kernel; that tool is free to others for non-commercial use, however the licensing fee we paid, gives us the right to use it commercially.
In any case, we are way off-topic at this point. Hopefully, everyone has the right adapter at this point, of course... Thx, your post is appreciated.
IanBaker61275
10-12-2007, 05:38 PM
I'm in a similar position to the first poster, in that my USB connection does not appear to be working:
I have installed Instant Cake and PTVUpgrade on my Philips DSR704. Installation appears to have gone well. I chose not to enable USB 2.0 drivers, and DHCP is enabled.
I have purchased a Trendnet TU2-ET100 from my local Officemax, but the lights do not come on, and the ethernet adapter is not working. The list of supported adapters indicates that the TU2-ET100 is supported?
The Instant Cake and PTV software was downloaded from your website 2 days ago, so I presume I have the right software drivers for the Trendnet?
Any thoughts?
The one item that slightly worries me is that the TiVo system information screen gives IRD model as DSR7000/17 , and not the DSR704 model that it is. I checked the software download screen and it confirms that I ordered the 704 software.
Rick Travis
10-12-2007, 05:50 PM
I'm in a similar position to the first poster, in that my USB connection does not appear to be working:
I have installed Instant Cake and PTVUpgrade on my Philips DSR704. Installation appears to have gone well. I chose not to enable USB 2.0 drivers, and DHCP is enabled.
I have purchased a Trendnet TU2-ET100 from my local Officemax, but the lights do not come on, and the ethernet adapter is not working. The list of supported adapters indicates that the TU2-ET100 is supported?
The Instant Cake and PTV software was downloaded from your website 2 days ago, so I presume I have the right software drivers for the Trendnet?
Any thoughts?
The one item that slightly worries me is that the TiVo system information screen gives IRD model as DSR7000/17 , and not the DSR704 model that it is. I checked the software download screen and it confirms that I ordered the 704 software. Isn't that a USB 2.0 adapter?
Hence you have to enable 2.0 drivers.
http://www.trendnet.com/products/TU2-ET100.htm
IanBaker61275
10-12-2007, 06:04 PM
You may right. The web site says however "Compliant with USB 2.0 and backwards compatible with the USB 1.0 and 1.1," so I assumed that it would support either protocol. I've also tried a Linksys USB100M adapter, which again shows no life - no lights flashing.
All other ideas welcome.
Rick Travis
10-12-2007, 06:15 PM
You may right. The web site says however "Compliant with USB 2.0 and backwards compatible with the USB 1.0 and 1.1," so I assumed that it would support either protocol. I've also tried a Linksys USB100M adapter, which again shows no life - no lights flashing.
All other ideas welcome. Not a supported adapter. supported adapters are:
* Netgear FA120
* Hawking UF200
* Linksys USB200M (v1 and v2)
* Trendnet TU2-ET100 (available directly from DVRupgrade)
only Linksys USB200M is supported. that is why the 100 does not work. I have USB200M and it works great.:)
backwards compatible refers to the USB specification not the adaptor. each manufacturer has their own enabling sequence and there is no industry standard for that
KentonBrown60629
10-12-2007, 08:38 PM
Circuit City stocks the USB200M for about 25 dollars. I am using this without a problem. I transfer a 2 hour movie from the USB200M connected to a wireless router then via wireless to my computer in about 30 minutes and sometimes in 25. If it says backward compatible then it is a USB 2.0 and you need the 2.0 drivers. There is no such thing as forward compatible.
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