No Network Menu

[MiHutch]

I have been looking everywhere for help. I just installed PTVNet and InstantCake on my Hughes SD-DVR40. I did select to use USB 2.0 drivers. No problems. When I plugged in my Linksys WUSB11 wireless network adapter I get the green power light. When I go to the Tivo settings option, under Phone there is no network options? I have read that the menu will not appear if the network adapter does not load, but everywhere I look it shows this adapter should work.

Any suggestions?

[Lou Jacob]

Please review the PTVnet-related information in the Articles, Product Overviews, Tutorials and Instructions (http://www.dvrupgrade.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12) area of the forum. You'll see that wireless USB adapters are not supported by PTVnet; nor should your menus change at all as part of installing or using PTVnet...

[AndrewKoffron59724]

Well that's not a very helpfull reply. We already know it doesn't work. What's the next step? or are you saying "tough we don't do wireless. glad we got your 40.00 buzz off?"

[MiHutch]

You took the words out of my mouth.

I think I found some answers, here is the link that may help if you run into the issue.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150363

Here are some key lines in the post,
"You will NOT see any networking options until after your adapter is recognized. In order for your adapter to be recognized, you MUST be running the software that supports your adapter."

"If you have an older TiVo Series2 with a TiVo Service Number that begins with 110, 130 or 140, not all of the above adapters are compatible with your unit. Check the compatible adapters list for details."

Here is the link to the compatible adapters list:

http://www.tivo.com/adapters/

I have checked mine which shows it works on all systems. Does anyone know where else to look?

I have also deleted all setting and reset the system. I still have no network menu option in settings.

[AndrewKoffron59724]

I've got 1/2 a dozen USB adapters around, but none of them are on the list, the thing that's causing me concern is that not one them even get a power light. it's making me wonder if the USB is really enabled on my TIVO. it'll take a couple days for an ordered one to get here. I'll let you know.

it really seems like there should be a way to load the divers for another card into the Image. I've got several cards that have mac and/or linux drivers available. Just haven't learned enough to understand how the Images work.

[Lou Jacob]

Well that's not a very helpful reply. We already know it doesn't work. What's the next step? or are you saying "tough we don't do wireless. glad we got your 40.00 buzz off?"

Apparently, you are misunderstanding, a lot. I never said that.

Please behave appropriately, or you will be banned from the forum; this is a community, and your posts should be constructive and polite. If you can't manage that, then please don't post here.

Now, if you re-read my original response, and the articles I referred you to, you will see you've missed some very important points.

1) PTVnet does not support (and was never designed to support) wireless USB adapters. What that means is that if you want to use it, you need to use one of the adapters that is listed as compatible. And there are specific recommendations on how to achieve wireless connectivity. It really doesn't get any more straightforward than that - follow the instructions and the recommendations, and thing will work exactly as they are designed to work!

2) PTVnet makes no changes to the menus of your TiVo system. Not sure why you would expect that - it just doesn't do that. Again, if you read the articles I referred you to, you'll see that one of them discusses specifically how to use the PTVnet functionality (ie, access your TiVo from your browser, to use TiVoWebPlus.

Beyond that, I don't know what you are looking for or expect; the product does work as described and we've gone to great lengths to document it and I've personally given you the information you need to be able to use it properly. That is quite a bit of support for an unsupported DIY product.

So, what I'd recommend is that you step back, review the pertinent information, and take a patient and careful approach with your DIY project. If there is some information that we've provided that is incomplete or missing some important detail, in your opinion, try to post CONSTRUCTIVELY and be a contributing member of the community.

[BruceS]

If you want a wireless connection that works, I am using the following combination.

Netgear FA-120 plugged into the HR10-250. This is a USB adaptor that provides a LAN port for a hard-wired connection. I don't know whether these are available anymore or not. I found mine onling by doing a google search.

LAN cable plugged into the FA-120.

Linksys WGA54G wireless network gaming adaptor plugged into the other end of the LAN cable.

This provides a wireless connection to my router, which is two rooms away.
As Lou said, there are no new menus shown on the HR10-250.

If I remember correctly, after connecting both adaptors, I needed to re-boot the HR10-250 before the lights on both the FA-120 and WGA54G started to flash.

You need to either log into your router or use something like Angry IP Scanner to discover what IP address has been assigned to your HR10-250 by DHCP unless you assigned it a static IP address when you installed PTVNet.

Either way, once you know the IP address, enter it into your browser to connect to TivoWebPlus on your HR10-250, use telnet with the IP address to access the linux command prompt on your HR10-250, or use ftp with the IP address to transfer files from and too your HR10-250.

There is a working version of both telnet and ftp available from the command prompt under both XP and Vista, but there are fancier versions of both available for free download. I use Putty for telnet access and have downloaded SmartFTP Client as well, but still find the command line ftp easier to use.

If you have access to an old PC that is no longer being used, install linux on it and explore. Under a full install of linux, you can enter "man ftp" or "man telnet" and receive a much better explanation of them then I am capable of providing.

This way you can play around with both telnet and ftp from your XP or Vista PC to the linux PC without any danger of messing things up on your HR10-250.

Even though the HR10-250's operating is linux based, it is a very trimmed down version and does not have things like man available.

[AndrewKoffron59724]

Apparently, you are misunderstanding, a lot. I never said that.

Please behave appropriately, or you will be banned from the forum; this is a community, and your posts should be constructive and polite. If you can't manage that, then please don't post here.

Now, if you re-read my original response, ............(bulk of reply delted) ............So, what I'd recommend is that you step back, review the pertinent information, and take a patient and careful approach with your DIY project. If there is some information that we've provided that is incomplete or missing some important detail, in your opinion, try to post CONSTRUCTIVELY and be a contributing member of the community.


whatever.. ban me if you want I'll probably cry like a little girl for, oh maybe 2 seconds.
My point was "the guy asked a pretty simple question, why not point him in the right direction?"

I've got no problem with "our application wasn't really meant to add wireless support,, try a couple of the other forums for instance http://www.tivocommunity.com/ (where I happen to see Lou Jacob posted helpful advice), the instructions are out there, but it's not a problem with PTVnet"

I also want to put a wireless adapter in my machine, and "thought" instantcake and PTVnet would fix everything, but I don't want to spend hours reading forums. I'm willing and happy to pay someone for software and equipment.

I'm totally happy with what I bought, and while I "wish" it made my Tivo read my mind and record everything I like, as well as enable mysterious wireless adapter. it did what it promised. Now I'm just trying to figure out how to continue on. I don't think myself or Mihutch where criticizing the forum or the software. Just the legal bable and less than helpful reply to a simple question.

[MiHutch]

And there are specific recommendations on how to achieve wireless connectivity. It really doesn't get any more straightforward than that - follow the instructions and the recommendations, and thing will work exactly as they are designed to work!

Are you kidding me? I went back and searched every page to the above link you pointed me to. Here is the only information it supplied referring to wireless.

If you are going to use a wireless device, even one we've supplied, we recommend you FIRST connect your unit to your network using a wired connection. Make sure everything works before proceed to configure your wireless connection.

Ok that really helps. Go out and buy something else.

2) PTVnet makes no changes to the menus of your TiVo system. Not sure why you would expect that - it just doesn't do that. Again, if you read the articles I referred you to, you'll see that one of them discusses specifically how to use the PTVnet functionality (ie, access your TiVo from your browser, to use TiVoWebPlus.

I never said that PTVnet made changes to the menu, I just wanted to find out why my network menu was not showing. I finally found it on another site which shows the drivers did not load. You might want to post helpful messages instead of defending your software. People come to this forum for help and you just post, "It's not our fault."

Thanks AndrewKoffron59724 for posting, I thought maybe I was not getting my point a crossed, but it sounds like you understand.

So you got my $40.00, your welcome, now I’ll go somewhere else and fix my problem. I’m glad I found this out before I bought the other InstantCake images for my other Tivo boxes. Saved me about $60.00.

[Lou Jacob]

There is a lot of erroneous and misleading information being discussed in this thread; so I am going to put in the last word, and close the thread.


Summary: When using PTVnet, you should not expect any changes or presence of a network menu within the user-interface of your TiVo.

PTVnet does not provide support for any USB wireless adapters, only USB 2.0 Ethernet adapters. (the list of supported adapters is available in the official support thread and are also mentioned in the general support information and instructions.)

In addition to installing USB 2.0 Ethernet drivers, PTVnet installs TiVoWebPlus, telnet and ftp.

For more information, please review the PTVnet-related articles mentioned in the Articles, Product Overviews and Instructions (http://www.dvrupgrade.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12) part of our forum.

Thx